March 5, 2009

Asian Women Submissive-Bonus Material

Whenever I communicate about this myth I often get many responses from people who have spent time in Asian countries or Asians themselves and often point out obvious stuff that is more of the “No way in hell are they either submissive or anything like you say either” type comments. This and in preparing to post this I did some research of what is written in this are on the Internet I want to clarify or expand on some things that I wrote or gets often communicated to me. These are not meant purely debunking a myth but Asian women behavior in general.

1) My discussion is based on the myth more how it relates to submissive through the eyes of someone into power exchange relationships and not submissive in terms of how I regular relationship person might think of it. Sacrifice and deferring to another on your own terms in the when and why does not mean submissive to me. Just because a woman may fuss over their man does not make that submissive.

2) Most men who try to date Asian women are usually going to be seeing young adult females late teens early to mid twenties. Most are meeting these women in very social settings like bars. Asians are no different in their maturity process then anyone else. You are looking at ground zero of an age and type that is not the average Asian mature women but women enjoying being young and exploring life. Another huge ass myth not all Asian women crave to live away from their family in America or other Western well off countries.

3) When I write about an Asian woman understands and can fuss over and spoil their man as part of how to express love and devotion it is not a given or is it remotely no strings attached. It comes with huge ass strings. This concept needs to be taken with the concept of Yin/Yang in living in harmony. An Asian women might fuss and spoil over their man out of love and devotion but that is going to be contingent they get love and devotion back on their terms from the man. If those things do not happen all bets are off. This is also more about actual love then just designation of a boyfriend. To be on a couple of great dates or what she believes is more of a fling would never get this behavior. If she does not get back what she gives that puts the relationship out of harmony and look out!

4) “My girlfriend bitched at me constantly” or “I know a couple of Asian men real well and all they do is complain what bitches their wives are”. See number three about harmony in a relationship. For more normal terms see compatibility and needs/desires not getting satisfied. If one thinks these were or at least you thought you were doing the normal things one must realize what is normal and expected for a Westerner can be quite different then for an Easterner.

For example, your fling girlfriend might not know it was a fling or even if it was not a fling did you not take meeting and interacting with her family seriously. Did you blow off or infer that spending time with her family sucked. Did you stop taking her out on nights and places she normally is accustomed in going to going out? These are just a couple of examples of what Westerners might think no big deal but can be huge ass deals and make a relationship not be in harmony.

5) As written in #3 and #4 specific expectations are expected in return. My quick summary of the difference in cultures is that they are basically the same but everything is just more extreme and serious in the Eastern ways compared to Western ways. An Asian woman has expectations and obligations their man is suppose to take care of. These can be of the usual noble ones described by all but they can be also what many can find shallow but they are still to be taken very seriously. If you date someone from another culture no matter how open they are to yours they still often see things and expect things based on their values and culture. Most Western men fail in this area by not knowing what these are and often not liking how some are consider politically incorrect even if they are the same in the Western world. Just because you do not like it or it gets played down does not mean it is not extremely important.

The last two are responses for the many men that spend some time/more then a vacation in an Asian country but come back with often negative views about the country and the women.



6) Many that stay for awhile never bother to learn and follow the local customs and fail to learn even some basic phrases of the local language. Many of these people then complain about how rude everyone is to them including the women. Think of it this way, a friend comes and stays at your house for a weekend. You treat them like a guest and go out of your way to accommodate them without expecting them to contribute in some way. But what if a friend comes and stays with you for like six months. We expect them to pitch in their fair share of the household chores and living expenses. Many who go over to a foreign country hang out in Western friendly bars and with other Westerners and fail to learn let alone follow any of the local culture. Soon you become to the foreigners who you interact with on a consistent basis the friend who has stayed at the house for six months and still expects to be treated as a welcomed guest. You will simply get a different behavior toward your inconsideration toward them combined from your initial impression when they put their best foot forward and it will in fact be quite a drop in the way they treat you. You would do the same thing if someone did that to you.

7) Foreign women are not naïve. They know men from different countries are still men and most looking for company/sex for just their time in the country. Those who are into that just might not be the best sample of a typical Asian woman that hang out in Western friendly bars or gravitate in general to a Western man. A Western woman who spends her time in bars multiple time a week and other “hip” social events you pretty much know is going to expect a boyfriend of their to keep them entertained in this fashion. We also know that whether a phase or just who they are they are not expected to get married, pop out a child and live a complete domestic type life anytime soon. Do not expect an Eastern woman to be any different if she loves these things as well. Do not judge the people by one small sub set.

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